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Tasty, Tasty Worms

I want to write a post about Groupon.

 

I know many of my colleagues, including several of my most respected peers in the industry, have had some experience with Groupon from a merchant's point of view and many of them are now trying to get word out about those experiences.

 

Most of those words are not fit for polite company.

 

So I made a promise to myself to put off the understanding light-curing technology obsession that seems to have consumed the greater part of my brain lately, and sit down and do some research about Groupon.

 

Because, frankly, from the first time I ever heard about the company and the way doing business with them as a merchant works, it seemed a no-brainer that this was a marketing opportunity that required careful mathematical consideration before making any agreements.

 

But I'm a tiny business. I hobnob with other tiny businesses. Many of the people from my industry who are coming forward to share their miserable, disillussioned, and devastating experiences with Groupon are real people whom I really know and whom I respect as fellow professionals; it's kinda hard to take a hard-line, "Well you're an idiot for not doing the math" approach to someone you consider a friend... not to mention doing it while reeling in absolute shock that some of these people are people I would never have suspected would agree to this type of promotion without having first considered the math.

 

It kinda makes it hard to take a side. And leaves me desperately wanting to believe that this giant corporate monster of a company must be playing dirty with the small businessperson.

 

Surely, these sales reps from Groupon are not just hard-sell, high-pressure salespeople who camp outside your door until you give in, but they must also lie, scheme, and lure you into a deal under false pretenses. They have to be telling you one thing and then changing the terms of your agreement in the fine print, right? I mean, if they tell you you can cap your sales at 100, why would they sell 6 billion and then hold you responsible for honoring them all? Right?

 

And now I am caught in between my peeps — fellow tiny tiny business owners (owners of tiny businesses, not business owners of personal diminutive stature) who are suffering from the choice to try a new form of advertising — and article upon article about this company and its various clones telling tales of similar woes from damaged businesses that still leave me shaking my head thinking, "OK, so you don't know what the terms “loss leader” or “yield management” mean, but how are you running a business without knowing what those things are?"

 

And I am left holding a very big, Costco-sized and clearly labeled can of worms in one hand, and a very sharp can opener in the other, trying to decide how I will ever manage to write enough posts to cover all the thoughts this subject is bringing to mind.

 

Fortunately, we're all safe for the time being. I happen to be left-handed, so it'll take me a while to find a left-handed can opener before I can open this can up.

 

Editor’s note: For more on the subject, check out NAILS’ article, “Should You Be a Groupon Groupie?”

Print | posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:14 AM

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Gravatar left by Heather at 1/26/2012 11:38 AM
i can understand wanting to promote your business, but I have never thought Groupon was a good idea for me. Luckily, I am busy enough at this point in my career where I dont even want to consider it. The funny part to me though, is that some of my clients have "suggested" that I should. I wanted to say "ok, well..you do your job for half pay, and then i will." but i just nicely said, "im fortunate enough not to have to take a pay cut."

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Gravatar left by Katie at 1/26/2012 11:50 AM
I can't even begin to tell you how awful my Groupon experience was! The company leads you to believe that you will have exposure to thousands of people and hundreds of new customers, not to mention your phone will be ringing off the hook! Well that's true but they never explain the negative backlash from all of this. You get customers who live far away and just want a deal, meaning they will never return, because in their mind it's off to the next deal! You will get customers that feel entitled and come in looking for anything to complain about. As a business owner, you feel like they are getting half off already, why would they push you for more free stuff? Oh and remember the half off price you have to give half of that to Groupon!! So it's actually 25% you get before taxes! Let's say you normally charge $40 for a soak-off gel manicure and your deal is half off that, that's $20 per person then Groupon takes their cut. You are left with $10 per person for a Gel Manicure? That's before supplies, labor and taxes! You actually LOSE money doing Groupon! And FYI, Groupon people love to write in depth and widely over exaggerated reviews on sites like Yelp! Where you will be wanting to respond and defend yourself but must rely on the companies filtering policy to filter out the false and leave the reliable reviews present, but of course for a price.
Stick to good old fashioned hitting the pavement, holding little events with your own deals, local and affordable advertising and free websites like Twitter, Facebook, etc, to market yourself and your business.
Deal sites hardly ever attract loyal clients!

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Gravatar left by michelle at 1/26/2012 12:42 PM
I am, as the owner, to blame for not reading and understanding the fine print in the contract before agreeing to the sale of groupons. Being an avid fan of Tabatha Coffey, I knew her stance on NEVER GIVING COUPONS, and for a long time I stuck to that. However, having just doubled the size of my spa and in need of new clients for new offerings, I succumbed to panic.

When groupon approached me, flattered me and promised that it was ok to offer 1,000 vouchers even though there were only 3 of us available per day because "They'll never sell out", I believed them. Now I'm screwed and have no idea what the backlash will be for my business in term of PR. Katie is 100% correct about these people being entitled and writing hateful and long reviews on Yelp.

I reply to each of these reviews publically, so that potential clients can get both sides of the story but I've gone from a 4.5 star rating to a 4 star rating due to these reviews. Yes, each negative review has something to teach me and I do my best to extract that kernel of info, but I'm a human being w/ feelings and they've been hurt, a lot, but the vituperativeness of some of these reviews.

The long and short of it is this, read your contract line by line. If you have ANY questions, don't ask the company that's selling you their service, ask your lawyer. If the company is pressuring you to hurry up and decide, politely decline until you can make your decision based on fact, not fear.

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Gravatar left by Vicky at 1/26/2012 3:32 PM
Let me give you another perspective before everyone complains much more. I have done business with Living Social and Deal Find and have great experiences with both. I placed my price point where I WANTED it within reason for the companies criteria. I didn't give away everything for 10 dollars. I have been in this business for almost 20 years and it ocured to me a few weeks ago how I used to have to advertise in the "good old days." I used to have to place print ads in newspapers for a few hundred dollars for an ad large enough to attract any attention at all and for only a few days. That was a lot of money up front and I did it rarely. The rest of the time I placed small ads for less money that NO ONE ever saw. I placed small ads in apartment building laundry rooms, grocery stores, free newspapers and word of mouth. And do you know how slow it was to grow from that? In the past 30 days, I have had 35 new clients in front of me and I have retained 6 of those. That's an 18% retention rate which is fantastic. I have about 175 more new clients coming in the next few months from 2 deals I have done. This type of marketing is NOT about money right now- it's about building a foundation- a future and the best part? No money up front!! So the next time you complain about this- take a minute and realize the gold you have in front of you. Your future and not a dime up front because if it was required, very few of us would be able to afford a vehicle good enough to pull those sorts of numbers of new clients. Just my thoughts.

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Gravatar left by Maggie Franklin at 1/27/2012 9:32 PM
Michelle: I admire you humility. I sincerely hope that your business survives to profer from the lessons you've learned, and I applaud your taking responsibility. I hope your experience saves many others from suffering likewise...also, I REALLY love learning the new word!

Vicky: In light of your good review, I should also mention that in my research, I have come across more than one account of GOOD experiences with Living Social! And I would LOVE to hear your recommendations for converting those clients into regulars! That seems to be a missing element in nearly ALL the stories I've heard from businesses of all types.

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Gravatar left by Jesse at 1/29/2012 8:25 AM
I've also had great experiences with LS and Groupon. I relocated to a new city, so I had a lot of space to fill up. Also, I work for myself, so I had no employees to further split the money with.

That said, I feel the reason I've had good retention is that I'm really good at what I do. Also, I welcome these new clients. I cross promote our other depts, record their contact info and offer a gift bag with product samples.

Another important thing is to leave yourself some room to upgrade these guests. I featured a classic mani/pedi and often upgrade them to gel polish. And if they have enhancements and need a fill instead of a mani, that's an upgrade as well.

Many people here, and on other articles, comment about the demanding nature of these clients (more demanding than most) Well, I've never experienced that, but I think it's because they pre-paid for the service. It makes sense to be a little more aggressive in that situation. But I find those people, with higher standards, and not afraid to show it, will become very loyal clients if you can live up to their expectation.

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